
先上结论,乌克兰拉垮的现状,我认为更多要怪罪民主党的拉垮,而非特朗普任期。而且泽连斯基亲口确认过,民主党时期的所谓资金援助,很大部分是没有入账乌克兰的,其中一半以上都给民主党洗钱搞走了。关于昨天的文章,我才发现很多情绪激动的乌友实际上能力相对有限。我从来都是谴责俄罗斯,但你们和泽连斯基一样情绪激动,搞不清楚情况,你们对懂王憎恨我毫无意见,但请你们就事论事,不要展现出如此惊人的低素质口吐芬芳。做好事实查证,英语练好,并建议你联系上下文看完整的50分钟视频,而非媒体剪辑的10分钟爆吵版本。练好英语听力,相信你们会有不同的答案,真的,乌友们,你们令人着急的水平,真的别给俄孙们看不起了,为你们感到着急。link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEOv4x_FIsc几个观点:1)美国真的有法律义务去援助乌克兰?乌克兰是美国的一个州?关于布达佩斯备忘录,原文在此:https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showDetails.aspx?objid=0800000280401fbbhttps://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf原文是指,在乌克兰遭受核威胁欺负的情况下to seek immediate UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL action to provide assistance to Ukraine乌友请自行具备一定英语能力,自行查核资料的能力。首先这份是备忘录,国际上不具备任何强制力。再者这个assistance不是军事协防也在字眼上并无“美国承诺必须包围乌克兰边境主权”,这是完全两码事。而是让乌克兰先找到United nation security council并在这个框架下尽速提供“协助”。再次强调,这个不是协防/共同防守协议。但凡有任何一点国际事务经验的,都能理解memorandum 和treaty在国际法上的巨大差异。memo这种形式没有任何强制力,那么为何乌克兰还是签署了这张没有任何强制力的备忘录?原因如下:1)乌克兰缺乏独立维护和使用核武的能力2)核武器的实际控制权仍在俄罗斯手中。西方国家施加巨大压力3)如果乌克兰不签署,将被孤立,并失去经济援助。乌克兰国内政治缺乏长期战略规划4)领导层更倾向于短期经济利益,而非长期安全利益。西方承诺提供安全保障(承诺并非强制力的必须,欺负乌克兰人英语不好)5)乌克兰高层错误判断以为布达佩斯备忘录足以防止俄罗斯侵略。
乌友们所说的,没有安全保障,就不签署,那我就想问了,布达佩斯备忘录有安全保障吗?所以乌友说的,美国有义务,必须保卫乌克兰领土主权完整的合法性来源在哪里?真的,我懒得贴memorandum和treaty的区别,了自己deepseek 好不好,累。
2)泽连斯基怎么可以说不是借款,都不用还?欧盟所提供的款项均为借款。但泽连斯基多次在公开演讲场合说这些款项是“赠款”,并不想要偿还。ref:https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253
- The European Union (EU) and our 27 Member States remain united and
determined in our unprecedented support for Ukraine.Since the start of
the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $145
billion* in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance,
of which 65% have been provided as grants or in-kind support and
35% in the form of highly concessional loans
(低汇率优惠贷款).
Grants and in-kind support(拨款和实物支持)通常用于政府、非营利组织、国际机构或企业提供的财政或物资援助,一般不需要偿还,但可能附带使用限制或条件。
这边算起来,近510亿美金的款项属于低息优惠贷款,这部分乌克兰是需要偿还的。
- In addition, in February 2024, European leaders agreed to commit up to
$54 billion
until 2027
for the
Ukraine Facility
to support Ukraine's recovery, reconstruction and modernization, as well
as its efforts to carry out reforms as part of its accession path to the
EU
.
Furthermore, in October 2024, the
EU and G7 partners
agreed to
collectively provide loans of
$50 billion
to support Ukraine's budgetary,
military and reconstruction needs, financed by extraordinary revenues from
immobilized Russian sovereign assets. The EU will contribute
$20 billion
. The first $3.2 billion was disbursed in January 2025. This will bring our commitments to date to
close to $198 billion.
欧盟+G7成员国加码了500亿美金的贷款,欧盟和G7说了不需要偿还了吗?其中欧盟给了200亿美金。
美国所提供的军事援助部分,link:
https://www.state.gov/bureau-of-political-military-affairs/releases/2025/01/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine
To date, we have provided $65.9 billion in military assistance since
Russia launched its premeditated, unprovoked, and brutal full-scale
invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, and approximately $69.2
billion in military assistance since Russia’s initial invasion of
Ukraine in 2014. We have now used the emergency Presidential Drawdown
Authority on 55 occasions since August 2021 to provide Ukraine military
assistance totaling approximately $27.688 billion from DoD stockpiles.金援部分,
https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/其中的债务部分:
Loans
Extraordinary revenue acceleration loans
Since February 2022, the international community has immobilized Russian
assets valued at approximately $300 billion. While most of these assets
are held in European financial institutions, some are held in U.S.,
Canadian, and Japanese financial institutions as well.
Between October 1, 2024 and December 31, 2024,
the G7 nations initiated $50 billion in what’s called extraordinary revenue
acceleration loans
to Ukraine. The loans are to be repaid by future proceeds from these immobilized assets, roughly $2.6 to $3.2 billion per year.
The U.S. has provided $20 billion as part of this initiative. The World
Bank’s Ukraine Financial Intermediary Fund will serve as the trustee and
administrator to distribute loan contributions from the U.S. and other
lenders, to Ukraine.
Other loan mechanisms
The U.S. Government has used $1.6 billion to secure a $4.8 billion loan
through World Bank’s Special Program for Ukraine and Moldova Recovery
and a
$530 million loan through the World Bank’s Economic Resilience Action Program.
Ukraine used the Special Program for Ukraine and Moldova Recovery loan to fund
many of the types of salaries also supported through direct budget
support.
所以G7提供了500亿的战争贷款,偿还的部分由俄罗斯冻结的资产支付。剩余自己看。
3)不是为特朗普讲话,但特朗普任期的确是给乌克兰解除武器限制(标枪javelin),没有特朗普给乌克兰增加武器权限,今天的乌克兰将更惨(不给资料,自行查实)。
主要是拜登拉垮给乌克兰添堵,导致了乌克兰错过好多次重大反攻翻盘的机会。
没见泽连斯基给特朗普竞选站台啊?我只看淡泽连斯基给民主党做狗站台,作为前线战争英雄不务正业在帮助民主党搞竞选,民主党拉垮的账全部记在特朗普头上这公平吗?
民主党一直封着乌克兰前线不让其拥有导弹,飞机等武器装备,错失了将近3次的黄金反攻的大好机会,拜登任期上厨子Prigozhin 兵谏莫斯科,你CIA国际特务有抓住机会策反Prigozhin,
利用好机会干翻普京了吗?没有,这么多好机会你都浪费了,然后就因为特朗普讲话不经过大脑,喜欢吹,抓住特朗普的言辞过度(比如说5000亿的贷款这就属于特朗普纯SB)
来压着特朗普。
民主党都下台了,你泽连斯基说过民主党一点不是吗?
没有,你还是那样ungrateful,当然很多乌友说西装论,我不觉得泽连斯基一定要穿西装来白宫,特朗普和万斯没必要针对泽连斯基。
2014年俄罗斯拿克里米亚(奥巴马任期),公然撕毁了布达佩斯备忘录,民主党屁都没放过,你正义小斗士泽连斯基批判过民主党一句吗?我在这里不是给特朗普说话,但泽连斯基完全就没有找过始作俑者民主党任何一点麻烦。
泽连斯基上门找麻烦,怎么不去指责奥巴马开了个恶劣的头呢?现在全球都在为2014年民主党奥巴马任期关于克里米亚软弱无能的回应买单
4) 现状是,泽连斯基想要掀翻普京,而且是在没有美国的援助下砍翻俄罗斯。
关于“丧权辱国”的矿产协定。
乌克兰的稀土矿区主要集中在克里沃罗格(Kryvyi Rih)、扎波罗热(Zaporizhzhia)、顿巴斯(Donbas)和基洛沃格勒(Kirovohrad)地区。
上图中绿色部分为稀土矿。红色部分是俄罗斯现在控制区域(求求你们了每次和你们扯我都要放一堆数据材料你们自己查查不可以吗,就这么懒吗?)是的,你们乌友多读书,多学习吧。稀土矿近一半在俄罗斯控制范围里,懂王要他的50%利润,懂王要整武器装备去干俄罗斯,不然只能搞到50%的50%,搞搞清楚。所以你泽连斯基到底在干什么???
我就不对战略目标作出任何点评,自己思考有多扯。
矿产协议远没有到5000亿美金丧权辱国,标的数额缩减了不少,还不到1000亿美金。
正如我所说的安全保障,在备忘录的框架中属于可执行,不执行也不会有多少惩罚和代价。现在倒好,你惹怒了懂王和万斯,把美国的援助全面断了,现在乌克兰前线的军队怎么办?这场仗还怎么打?为了前线的官兵姓名们,咱们稍微忍一下,把矿协定签了,留得青山在不怕没材烧,别装tough 了,行吗?